Continuing on with the psychoanalysis from last week, let me turn the spotlight on another blogger known to many, Pamela Geller of Atlas Shrugs.
The ICD-10 lists paranoid personality disorder as F60.0 Paranoid Personality Disorder.
This personality disorder is characterized by at least 3 of the following:
(a) excessive sensitivity to setbacks and rebuffs;
(b) tendency to bear grudges persistently, i.e. refusal to forgive insults and injuries or slights;
(c) suspiciousness and a pervasive tendency to distort experience by misconstruing the neutral or friendly actions of others as hostile or contemptuous;
(d) a combative and tenacious sense of personal rights out of keeping with the actual situation;
(e) recurrent suspicions, without justification, regarding sexual fidelity of spouse or sexual partner;
(f) tendency to experience excessive self-importance, manifest in a persistent self-referential attitude;
(g) preoccupation with unsubstantiated “conspiratorial” explanations of events both immediate to the patient and in the world at large.
The international standard requires at least three of these characteristics. Let’s list a few examples, shall we?
(c) misconstruing the neutral or friendly actions of others as hostile or contemptuous
LGF raised concerns that some participants in the anti-islamization conference might have less than savory backgrounds, yet Pamela Geller reacted as though Charles Johnson had drowned her favorite puppy. Instead of seeing a concerned friend urge caution, she saw an attack, and attacked back.
(d) a combative and tenacious sense of personal rights out of keeping with the actual situation
If you click through the link “publicly flogged” to Pamela’s blog, you’ll see that the “Vlaams Belang” story to which she links actually has nothing to do with Belgian Vlaams Belang, as they can’t control anti-Semitism in Sweden, but for Pamela, a loose connection to European politics is the only opening she needed to insert paranoid claims of a “mission” before voicing her desire for violent revenge concerning unrelated news stories.
(f) tendency to experience excessive self-importance, manifest in a persistent self-referential attitude
Any perusal of Pamela’s front page demonstrates her tendency to inject herself into every event she covers. A google image search returns with hundreds of thousands of images, usually of Pamela and often someone of more import than herself. Defending the Defensible is particularly fond of these images of Pamela with Robert Spencer captured from an Atlas Shrugs Vlog. The video is now private for some unexplained reason (hat tip: ChenZhen).
(g) preoccupation with unsubstantiated “conspiratorial” explanations of events both immediate to the patient and in the world at large
No conspiracy is too wild for Pamela. She’ll promote any story from any source if it confirms her existing biases, no matter how outlandish. CIA plots, secret ChiCom deals, illegitimate children of famous activists- Pamela has them all covered. Not to mention her propensity for subscribing motivations of others to plots designed to harm her efforts.
Please recall that “paranoid personality disorder” is characterized by at least 3 of seven points. Above are listed four of those points as they can be related to Pamela Geller and her writing. Dear Readers, I will allow you to draw your own conclusions.
Tags: Atlas Shrugs, just plain nuts, Liars, Pamela Geller, psychoanalysis
June 30, 2009 at 3:32 pm
Good evening all…Hope today finds you well…
My take on Pamela? I grew up in Napa Valley.. With famous people everywhere. It’s all ego…She got attention and her ego is driving her every move…all her motives all her posts all her being
Live in a pool of ego.. It’s that simple….
That’s just my opinion
July 1, 2009 at 7:50 am
You do not think that Charles Johnson does not himself have a massive ego?
July 2, 2009 at 11:27 am
Not anywhere near as large as Pamela’s, Savage’s, or Rodan’s.
July 3, 2009 at 1:58 pm
No. I don’t see a massive ego coming from CJ. To the contrary, I’ve seen a man more than willing to share the spotlight or humbly take praise when it’s directed towards him. He strikes me as a modest man.
June 30, 2009 at 5:48 pm
Oh fer cyrin’ out loud we are talking about a silly flame war between two blogs right? This ain’t France v. Germany 1870!
June 30, 2009 at 7:44 pm
Problem is… crazy people don’t know they’re crazy
July 1, 2009 at 6:34 am
bull… shit
July 1, 2009 at 7:26 am
Bull shit? Why, please explain?
Geller is well known around the blogosphere to be more than a bit off-kilter.
July 1, 2009 at 3:34 pm
Well known to who besides Lizards?
July 1, 2009 at 3:57 pm
Morgan must be joking. Google “Shrieking Harpy”.
July 1, 2009 at 4:14 pm
No Morgan wasn’t joking; in fact, Morgan was quite serious. And since a Google search doesn’t convince me, I’ll repeat the question: Well known to who beside Lizards?
July 1, 2009 at 5:07 pm
Known to the left, center, and those on the right that haven’t lost their minds. It’s not difficult to find places where she’s ridiculed.
July 1, 2009 at 10:24 pm
The left and center don’t surprise me, since they have their own ideas about how things should be, but those on the right who “haven’t lost their minds” are flat wrong.
The threats are out there, the dangers are obvious, but those of the right who “haven’t lost their minds” simply look in the opposite direction and cry “Nazis!”, “Right-wing Extremists!”, “Birthers!”, “Anti-Vaccine Nuts!”, “Creationists!”, “Stalker blogs!”. Pamela Geller, on the other hand, knows where the real threats lie, what the real problems are.
I’m glad to know there are those on the right who have, by your definition, “lost their minds”; otherwise we’d be stuck with you paranoid bloggers (you know, the real nuts? like Ron Paul?). That, and having to pay jizya.
July 2, 2009 at 11:33 am
Morgan, at the moment you guys are playing down Ron Paul, even as his ideas are being mainstreamed into current Republican thought with the aid of an ever helpful media. Soon, you’ll be saying “What’s wrong with ron Paul anyway?”
And really, the problem from the Republican party’s point of view with regard to this discussion, is not about what is important in the grand scheme of things, but what is repellent to the majority of the US electorate. If the republican movement fails to realise this, it will spend a long time out of power.
July 2, 2009 at 8:40 pm
Gin-Wulm, there’s too much wrong with Ron Paul on foreign policy for me to ever ask what’s wrong with him. I know there’s something wrong with him.
And again, you’re off. Returning to core principles is what Republicans need to do. The majority of the US electorate can be wrong, like say November 2008? When it was proven there are idiots in America?
July 3, 2009 at 3:46 am
And what the fuck do creationism, nirther paranoia, and panic merchants like Glenn Beck and Shrugs have to do with ‘core values’?
I think it may well be that you’re going to have to get used to the American electorate “getting it wrong” for a long time to come.
July 3, 2009 at 6:27 am
Panic merchants? There’s good reason to be concerned about what the government is doing right now, and you’re calling Glenn Beck & Pamela Geller panic merchants? They’re doing a greater service than what Charles Johnson has done.
Who cares about a person being a creationist or a birther? Most birthers simply have a question that hasn’t been satisfactorily answered: where’s the proof of Barack Obama’s natural birth? You may think they are “idiotarians”, but that’s your opinion, not mine.
Beck & Geller have more to do with core values than you do. They don’t advocate moving to the “center”, and they’re not blind to the real problems.
If the majority of the electorate will consist of people like you, then yes, I’ll have to get used to the electorate getting it wrong until they finally wake up.
July 3, 2009 at 10:57 am
Yes they are panic merchants. IT A COUP! END IS COMING! STOCK UP ON SURVIVAL SKILLZ FOR OBAMAGEDDON! This may seem like ‘common sense’ to you, but the rest of the country is laughing.
“Who cares about a person being a creationist or a birther?”
Who cares about the nirth certificate? Just to remind you – you lot had been hammering on about this for god knows how long, and then….America elected Barack Birth Cert Obama as president. Kinda leaves you without a case for pursuing this. But despite my arguing here, deep down I hope that you don’t listen to me, that y’all ‘keep the nirth faith’ – because I’d like to see the wacko fringes on the right isolate themselves further from the mainstream with this silliness. Plus, it’s just funny to watch.
July 3, 2009 at 11:27 am
So what you’re telling me, Gin-Wulm, is that you have no problem with America being a socialist country, is that right? That what the Obama administration and the Congress is doing is not so bad?
Of course, birthers have been hammering this case for a long time, and with good reason. It’s a constitutional matter; you have to be a natural born citizen to be President. The fact Obama has been elected doesn’t resolve the question concerning his birth, like you think it does. The question still remains, and you haven’t answered it.
July 3, 2009 at 11:41 am
“Who cares about a person being a creationist or a birther?”
The vast majority of Americans who are satisfied that this is not an issue, but just another crack pot conspiracy theory. If you can’t see that this would be a disastrous ’cause’ for the mainstream republican movement to take up, I can’t help you.
The documents required to demonstrate his citizenship have been shown. This together with other documentary evidence including postings of his birth on two Hawaiian newspapers at the time proves that he is a US citizen, and shows that the conspiracy theories are just plain crazy. They are probably not showing the original document to the general public to encourage people like yourself to continue to be an embarrassment to the Republican movement. No doubt, if and when the Republican movement officially endorses this ’cause’ – is when the original document would be shown.
July 3, 2009 at 3:53 pm
Then why didn’t Obama’s people in 2008 present the original documents? When the question of McCain’s own natural birth was brought up, he supplied the original documents to prove his natural birth. So why didn’t Obama do the same? I repeat, the Constitution requires the President be a natural born citizen.
The other documents you described are not enough. The original documents are needed, so if Obama had nothing to hide, why didn’t he show the original documents?
July 4, 2009 at 6:02 am
Because there was a reasonable question over McCain’s citizenship. There is no reasonable question over Obama’s.
I’m interested to know – if Obama is not a US citizen, how do you explain the birth notices in Hawaiian newspapers? Is time travel a feature of this conspiracy?
July 4, 2009 at 5:18 pm
There are still one too many loose ends about this whole thing with Obama’s birth certificate. If Barack Obama was born in Hawaii, then fine. However, I haven’t been convinced of either argument, and the fact Obama’s people haven’t been too forthcoming with the proof hasn’t helped their case.
July 5, 2009 at 3:39 am
Just like the ‘loose ends’ over evolution, 9/11, 7/7 and the moon landings huh? Maybe you should get in touch with Dylan Avery and co-author a video expose of the whole thing – call it “Loose Hope and Change”?
You can’t answer the question about the newspaper notices, whose existence, together with the other evidence kills the conspiracy theories stone dead. This is why sensible conservatives are ignoring this nirth certifikit thing. It is preposterous and can do nothing except embarrass those who are still pursuing it.
July 5, 2009 at 7:38 am
Understand something clearly, Gin-Wulm, do not equate me with nutcases like the 9/11 Truthers. When it comes to the question of the birth certificate, I’m neutral.
I don’t like the dismissiveness you and other Lizards and Lizard supporters show toward those who are genuinely concerned about this matter. Most birthers have legitimate concerns. A few are genuine nuts, but that doesn’t invalidate the concern.
I have seen the newspaper notices you write of, but still don’t trust the other evidence you also write of. If you honestly think I’m nuts because I’m not convinced by the evidence you present, that’s your problem.
I want to see the original birth certificate, simple as that, and nothing less will convince me of Barack Obama’s natural birth. Same also goes to the birthers; unless they can prove beyond a shadow of a doubt (and nothing less) of Obama’s birth in Kenya, I’m not convinced.
July 1, 2009 at 7:01 am
Sure explains why the crazies at lgf2 love Geller so much. Crazy attracts crazy.
July 1, 2009 at 7:40 am
Did you go to a psychological paper and do a copy and paste job?
July 1, 2009 at 7:41 am
“Sure explains why the crazies at lgf2 love Geller so much. Crazy attracts crazy.”
Have you ever spoken to Sharmuta?
July 3, 2009 at 2:08 pm
What an incredibly substantiative argument you’ve presented.
July 1, 2009 at 9:20 am
Pamela Geller is a lunatic, a raging self-promotional hyperventilating fruitcake.
She demands respect as a journalist, but she’s incapable of taking a photograph or making a video that doesn’t put her artificial cleavage on display… gotta show off that investment, I guess. Gives you extra leverage with your male readers and men in general.
Some people may buy into that kind of female manipulation, but most don’t. The content of her website is also being judged, by people who have the professional credentials to do so, and the general consensus is that she’s an anti-Islamic fascist and self-styled “savior”… a delusional, self-promotional, vindictive personality with an uncontrollable ego.
She is, essentially, the laughing stock of the entire right-wing/conservative blogosphere. Nobody takes her seriously, except for perhaps the like-minded people who visit her site because they’re enamored by her physical attributes and her taste for violent imagery.
In fact, she’s almost as crazy as psycho hate-bloggers Rodan, m, and Savage.
This is a great piece, and thanks for posting it Defenseman… the infamous “cougar den” images alone, were worth the click.
Geller is a bonafide nutcase, and we need more posts like this instead of less. The woman is poisoning the conservative movement, and it’s important for people to know that not all conservatives are fascist-enablers like Pamela and her “friend” Robert Spencer.
Some conservatives actually understand the concepts of freedom, democracy, and liberty and justice for all.
July 1, 2009 at 10:09 am
Pam Geller would not piss on the best part of you.
July 1, 2009 at 10:13 am
Great post, defensman… two thumbs up!
July 1, 2009 at 10:32 am
the kind of comments I see on this thread doesn’t make me thing there is any sense to comment here any further. enjoy bullshiting. adieu
July 1, 2009 at 11:42 am
Oh noes! Don’t leaf us! Ur contribushuns iz so vitul.
July 1, 2009 at 11:03 am
F60.0 Paranoid Personality Disorder sounds exactly like Charles Johnson at LGF.
July 1, 2009 at 11:41 am
Her coverage of recent events in Iran has been outstanding.Meanwhile,lgf continues to pollute the blogosphere with John Bircher, Ron Paul and Creationism trivial pursuit.Guess you enlightened folks don’t want to “meddle.”
July 1, 2009 at 11:44 am
Hers cares onry aboot dead mooslims, dats why.
July 2, 2009 at 11:03 am
Dead muslims are for Pamela just weapons to be used against live muslims, while pretending to ‘care’ etc. The only thing she really cares about, of course, is how she looks to her idiotic admirers.
July 1, 2009 at 11:52 am
Obviously you’ve missed the excellent conversations on LGF regarding the Twitterers from Iran and the information that they’ve been providing that’s better coverage than Crazy Pam.
July 1, 2009 at 12:07 pm
but . . . but . . . but . . .at lgf, the coverage and conversations about Iran lacked the shrieking and hair-pulling! that’s ALWAYS more fun.
July 1, 2009 at 12:32 pm
The aforementioned subjects are only “trivial” if you have a vested interest in publicly denying the problem that we have in this country with right-wing extremism.
Some of us however, are rightly concerned with important matters like the rise in antisemitism, neofascism, and naziism on American soil, and the subjugation of a parents’ right to send their child to a public (not a privately funded) school and not have that child subjected to religious proselytizing masquerading as science.
Here in the US we live in a Democracy, not a theocracy. And yet there are far too many religious hypocrites in this country (many of whom are rabidly anti-Islam) who truly believe that a Christian theocracy would benefit society as a whole – even if it means stripping away the rights of other Americans. And they’re more than willing to exploit the legal system to make it happen.
Erosion of personal freedom via abuse of the courts is something that all true conservatives should be concerned about but sadly, conservatives today seem to be more interested in dismissing, excusing, enabling and even participating in right-wing extremist behavior than they are in identifying it and purging it. And they’re dragging down the entire Republican party with their madness.
Pamela Geller is one of those people.
July 1, 2009 at 3:55 pm
We have a problem with right-wing extremism, but it’s a problem blown out of proportion by those too blind to realize it.
Who wants to subjugate the right of parents to send their kids to public school? There are people who want to subjugate the right of parents to send their kids to private school or homeschool them.
Who wants a theocracy in America? Who else besides Fred Phelps?
Who is dragging the Republican party down with their madness? I’d sooner suspect the moderates than the conservatives of that.
Also, even Janet Napolitano has said the incidents of “right-wing extremism” doesn’t vindicate the infamous DHS report on it.
July 2, 2009 at 11:05 am
Well Said, Irish Rose.
July 2, 2009 at 11:25 am
Well Morgan, apparently, if you’re not cool with creationists, nirthers, Glenn Beck, Pamela Geller and abortion clinic killers then you aren’t a “true conservative”. This is not a smart direction for a party that’s just had it’s ass kicked to go in. The moderates, incredible as it no doubt seems to you, are the voices of sanity in this, not the extremists and their sympathisers.
July 2, 2009 at 7:27 pm
Listening to the voices of sanity, as you describe the moderates, Gin-Wulm, is what Republicans did in 2008, and they got their asses kicked, because they didn’t stick to core principles. They looked like Democrats-lite.
What do you define as a “true conservative”, because it sounds to me that you’re talking about true nutcases. To equate Glenn Beck & Pamela Geller with true nutcases tells me you need some guidance in what true conservatives really are. Beck & Geller have common sense.
July 2, 2009 at 8:18 pm
Morgan:
No, they got their asses kicked because they were seen as a continuation of the Bush administration. The US electorate is not trending towards the right. Near the centre is where most voters are, not on the fringes of the right.
“To equate Glenn Beck & Pamela Geller with true nutcases tells me you need some guidance in what true conservatives really are. Beck & Geller have common sense.”
LOL Add about 3 sarc tags to that comment and you’ll be in business.
July 2, 2009 at 8:56 pm
Give me a break. If Barack Obama proved anything (aside from the existence of idiots in America), it’s that there actually is something worse than your worst nightmare (i.e. a continuation of the Bush administration): putting America closer to socialism.
If that’s what you want, then you don’t have to do anything.
July 3, 2009 at 3:50 am
“To equate Glenn Beck & Pamela Geller with true nutcases tells me you need some guidance in what true conservatives really are. Beck & Geller have common sense.”
I’m still laughing at that a full day later. Priceless!
July 3, 2009 at 6:28 am
Boy, I’m glad to know I’ve been keeping you in stitches.
July 3, 2009 at 11:06 am
You’re welcome!
July 1, 2009 at 12:20 pm
No thanks, some of us prefer filtering our own info without that nagging lojac stuffed up our rectums setting off warnings whenever a verbotem site is visited.
July 1, 2009 at 7:29 pm
Yes, r, it’s obvious you prefer to “filter” your own information in what I suppose is the “approved” tone for lgf.
Look at this really bizarre race-hating rant: http://www.littlegreenfootballs2.com/2009/06/28/house-holds-moment-of-silence-for-pedophile/
Of course it was stupid and idiotic for the House to have a moment of silence for Michael Jackson.
But that should have been the the issue – not race-hate.
July 1, 2009 at 7:31 pm
whoops! My bad – I meant the approved tone for LGF 2.
July 3, 2009 at 8:55 am
Where is this so called “race hating”?
Where do I say all black people are inherently inferior to other people and thus its OK to treat them as less than?
I pointed out the race in order to show the double standards in American with regard to race!
Strangely you remind me of another blogger that also sees things that do not exist.
July 3, 2009 at 10:44 am
If that was “race hating” I can tell you that most if not all the commentators at the blogmocracy would have called me on it.
Including WrathofG-d, GoddessoftheClassroom, vapig, vagabond, CloudyDay, m, Lance, n2l, Song and Dance Man and all the rest.
July 3, 2009 at 11:30 am
Bar, your comment seethes with resentment towards blacks. Sounds exactly like eurofascist propaganda in fact. (And they would say they are not racist too; they too would say – ‘where in my statement does it say….’ Yes, looks like they aren’t the only people who are learning the art of deniable racism)
And no they wouldn’t have called you out. That’s one of the problems with that site – there is a willingness to give all kinds of garbage a free pass. That – apart from the constant obsession with LGF – is the whole point of your nasty little site in fact – a place where a bunch of very unhappy people can ‘get it off their chest’ without fear of moderation. The site where you can go and demand the destruction of entire countries, fantasize about who you’d like to kill in a civil war, call women cunts and whores till you are blue in the face and then laugh about how on ‘1.0′ that sort of thing wouldn’t be allowed.
All of the above is disgusting to normal people. But then, you aren’t normal people are you?
July 3, 2009 at 2:15 pm
Gin-
Well what you claim is resent towards blacks is really resentment towards the blatant double standards. Of course you see something completely different, but only because it fits your lame ass agenda.
Now if only what you “claim” is really there could only be proven with facts so reasonable people could decide for themselves, then you wouldn’t look so unhinged.
So if I don’t respond anymore to your wild unproven accusations you will know it’s just a waste of time trying to reason with the unreasonable.
July 4, 2009 at 5:54 am
The idea that white people are an oppressed group while blacks have it all easy is a common propaganda tool of the racist right.
And pretending that it’s all about objecting to double standards – that’s how racism hides these days.
If you really are not racist, then you have some work to do to avoid sounding exactly like one.
July 2, 2009 at 7:58 am
OK, this has gone far enough people!
How can you insignificant ingrates NOT respect someone with a foot fetish, a boob job, and such a fantabulous collecshun of designer shoes?
She’s a professional journalist… SHOW SOME RESPECT, DAMMIT!
Luddites!
July 3, 2009 at 3:26 pm
The site where you can go and demand the destruction of entire countries, fantasize about who you’d like to kill in a civil war, call women cunts and whores till you are blue in the face and then laugh about how on ‘1.0? that sort of thing wouldn’t be allowed.
Have comments been left at the 2.0 site that said such, perhaps they have, have I made these comments? No I have not.
How about we now judge 1.0 for some of the outrageous comments that some have left?
Even some of the comments us crazy banned 2.0 people have made? It was 1.0 that held some type of attraction to us crazy types, in all fairness.
They (1.0) get far more comments in one day then we (2.0) get in three months, so the chances of a bad or inappropriate comment is not on their side.
July 4, 2009 at 5:35 am
bar – the evidence is in plain sight for anyone too see on LGF2 and you know it. You know that the owners and administrators of LGF2 have called for the destruction of Albania, the rounding up and shooting of ‘Charles Johnson’ types “when the shit hits the fan” and have repeatedly called female posters from LGF cunts and whores, and a lot of other disgusting things as well. Just look on some of the previous threads here for quotes.
You know that nothing like that is permitted on LGF, you also know that your site prides itself on being the place where such speech IS accepted and actually encouraged, given that the worst of it comes from the site’s owners. No point trying to deny it now.
July 4, 2009 at 11:15 am
Gin-
Interesting strawmen you keep building. I suppose arguing with me over my own words isnt as much fun as inventing things then pretending I said them so you can easily attack them.
No where did I mention that white people are oppressed, its interesting to note that you automatically assume I am a white male. The good news is you passed the moonbat test with flying colors.
I personally don’t know many racists that hide, most are pretty open about who they hate and why? Maybe you personally know these hidden racists, but then maybe you see all kinds of hidden stuff?
July 5, 2009 at 3:04 am
HA! Are you saying that you are black, after writing this:?
“This is beyond reprehensible. Another “black” guy, another free pass, just like President Zero.
Yeah America, we are all equal but some are more equal then others.
America dislikes pedophiles unless they are formerly black and popular.”
Give us a break.
We are discussing exactly what you said, bar; in desperation you are mistaking drawing reasonable inferences from your statement as ’strawman building’. It isn’t.
“I personally don’t know many racists that hide, most are pretty open about who they hate and why?”
You don’t know many? That’s ok – it doesn’t have to be many – a few is enough to establish that you know what I’m talking about. Tell me about them.
July 5, 2009 at 7:57 am
I see there is only two choices in your race game, white or black. You cant be brown or yellow a combination there of.
The idea that white people are an oppressed group while blacks have it all easy is a common propaganda tool of the racist right. – Gin
That is a strawman, I never once said that. And yet here you are so desperately trying to illogically attribute that to me. A hidden racist and because I am “hidden” only expert moonbats like yourself can see what is not there.
You know that the owners and administrators of LGF2 have called for the destruction of Albania, the rounding up and shooting of `Charles Johnson’ types “when the shit hits the fan” and have repeatedly called female posters from LGF cunts and whores, and a lot of other disgusting things as well. Just look on some of the previous threads here for quotes. – Gin
Nice hasty generalization. As I already noted some at the blogmocracy have made some comments, I myself have not. The admin that have not made those types of comments far out number those who do and did. I do noticed that CJ cant make a good argument without it containing many logical fallacies, you are cast in the identical strawman mold.
Charles Johnson advocates the removal of free speech to those he doesn’t agree with, like Glen Beck. When CJ says stuff like “that guy shouldn’t be allowed to speak”. Which can only mean that you (Gin) also advocate the same thing, how American of you.
CJ understands words just like moonbats do, which means he doesnt and Defenseman cant spell either, so you have those going for you. Maybe you feel smarter and better about yourself when you hangout with these other “normal” to you illogical moonbat types?
I thought it was well documented that I am a racist because I dare criticize President Zero.
Its funny watching you jump through hoops trying to keep this double standard alive and well. The minute it gets exposed you just start screaming racist., what moonbattery buzz word will you scream next?
July 5, 2009 at 3:06 pm
Bar:”Nice hasty generalization.”
It happens to be true. I’m disappointed that instead of owning and trying to justify what your site is, you are trying, hopelessly, to deny it. I thought you were proud of your blog.//
Bar:”The admin that have not made those types of comments far out number those who do and did.”
Outnumber? Please don’t make us laugh. We are talking about the OWNERS of the sad little grief-hole you call a blog, as well as many of the others. You can see that just from the quote I added above. I can provide plenty more here if you wish. One of your cohorts has already explained on a previous page here that the reason the vilest comments are not removed is because they were made by the sites owner!
Bar:”Charles Johnson advocates the removal of free speech to those he doesn’t agree with, like Glen Beck. When CJ says stuff like “that guy shouldn’t be allowed to speak”. Which can only mean that you (Gin) also advocate the same thing, how American of you.”
Nonsense. If you think Charles has advocated removing Glenn Beck’s freedom of speech, provide quotes and let’s see it! Charles along with many others recognises the importance of banning those who are not able to conduct themselves in a reasonable civil manner, and those who advocate extremist/idiotarian positions. LGF has always been anti-idiotarian.
The problem with political sites that do not make any serious attempt to moderate their comments is that they become breeding grounds for garbage, where any and all idiotarianism is welcome as long as it’s an idiotarianism that is associated with their political wing. As a result places like HA are now dominated by nirthers, religious nuts (not talking about ordinary run of the mill christians and jews), and those who sympathise with fascists and domestic terrorists. Yes, I read those sites after Tiller’s murder and saw all the comments that supported or refused to condemn his killer. Charles has done absolutely the right thing in taking steps to ensure that his site avoids ending up like those.
Bar:”CJ understands words just like moonbats do, which means he doesnt and Defenseman cant spell either, so you have those going for you. Maybe you feel smarter and better about yourself when you hangout with these other “normal” to you illogical moonbat types?”
Um…could you kindly re-arrange those words into something halfway intelligible that I can respond to?
Bar:”I thought it was well documented that I am a racist…”
Just to jump in here – I didn’t actually say that you definitely were a racist – I merely tried to explain to you how your remarks sound exactly like those of a racist – the BNP type, who are well known for their policy of hiding their racism behind objections to ‘political correctness’ and so on. You could have just said “Ok I can see where you are coming from, indeed such racists do exist, but I assure you I am not one of them”. But you instead tried to deny that there even was such a thing as a dissembling racist, attributing the concept to ‘moonbattery’. Very telling if you ask me.
Bar:”…because I dare criticize President Zero.Its funny watching you jump through hoops trying to keep this double standard alive and well. The minute it gets exposed you just start screaming racist., what moonbattery buzz word will you scream next?”
And you accuse others of creating strawmen? Very amusing. I think you’ll find that the LGF community as a whole including Charles are critical of Obama. It is therefore rather bizarre to find that you people (that’s quite a ‘distancing’ phrase isn’t it?) would imagine that mere criticism of him would be considered racism on LGF. You’re really quite a silly person, aren’t you bar?
July 5, 2009 at 1:08 pm
“Its funny watching you jump through hoops trying to keep this double standard alive and well.”
Would those be… (dramatic pause) HOOSIER HOOPS?
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!!!1!